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Has anyone tried that 'Shangri La Diet" thing?

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frakkin

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:42 pm


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I haven't bothered to read the book, but I thought the whole concept sounded pretty logical. You just take 1.5-2x your body weight (pounds) in flavourless calories. You have to wait at least an hour before doing this if you've eaten, and wait another hour after before eating something else. This in turn, causes your body to disassociate flavour with fat, and thus, making your cravings and hunger disappear. I've been doing it for a few days, and it's worked so freakin' well. I've been taking a table spoon of canola oil, twice a day, with great success. I'm not hungry at all. I hardly even feel like eating, let alone craving any sort of food. I mean, everything still tastes good, but I just don't go all "OMG I need to eat something."

It's not really a diet, in my opinion. It's merely an appetite suppressant. A really good one, at that. I've been reading a bit online, and a lot of people have also had great success. Even people at a normal weight, with no extra exercise, have lost weight, out of pure curiosity and experimentation.

If anyone here is having problems with controlling their appetite, try this. You can use either sugar water (sipped slowly), or flavourless oil. It's pretty effortless. It'd be a great addition to a weight loss plan.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:10 pm


I've never heard of that....I don't get it, how does drinking oil dissaciate flavor and fat? Does it only work with canola oil or can vegetable oil or olive oil work? I usually try to stay away from oil or greasy foods 'cause I thought they were fatty....but then again, if it's only a couple tbsp a day, then I guess it's not so bad. I just don't see how it works. confused

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:30 pm


I dont either, and I was raised on E.v.o.o, my dad and I are French so we love it for cooking or in salads. the two of us together believe in the art of flavor but in moderation.

I dont see how sugar water will help, that would make my thighs and ankles worse I would think.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:38 pm


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I've never heard of that....I don't get it, how does drinking oil dissaciate flavor and fat? Does it only work with canola oil or can vegetable oil or olive oil work? I usually try to stay away from oil or greasy foods 'cause I thought they were fatty....but then again, if it's only a couple tbsp a day, then I guess it's not so bad. I just don't see how it works. confused



According to the guy's theory, when you eat something, your body associates the flavour with the amount of fat in the food. Therefor, if you eat flavourless fat, your body will no long associate flavour at all with fat. Canola oil works well because it doesn't have much flavour. Extra light olive oil would work, as well.

I mean, I haven't read the book, and don't have a complete understanding of it. But I've been trying the oil, and it's been working very well. I've never been able to eat so little or just say no to yummy food so easily. Hey, it could be a placebo effect. In any case, it's working for me, and apparently a lot of people. If you count calories, you'd have to adjust for the extra ones. The whole point of it is to make you want to eat less than normal, and not be tortured by cravings, from my knowledge.

Added bonuses include nicer skin and nicer hair. Sounds good to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:12 pm


frakkin
According to the guy's theory, when you eat something, your body associates the flavour with the amount of fat in the food. Therefor, if you eat flavourless fat, your body will no long associate flavour at all with fat. Canola oil works well because it doesn't have much flavour. Extra light olive oil would work, as well.


I'm not sure how sound of an idea this is considering that you can make some freaking FANTASTIC tasting dishes that are very low in fat.

Honestly, I think the problem for a lot of people is that they get hung up in the idea of vegetables and salads as "rabbit food." When they think of salad, they think of plain lettuce, maybe some tomato, and dressing. I'm a huge fan of veggies, but even I would turn up my nose at that. People need to concentrate on exploring foods that already taste good, experiment with spices, and make an effort to focus on foods that are as close to their whole and natural form as possible.

Fat is not the enemy and it certainly does wonderful things for helping you to feel satisfied. However, I think this diet is silly. It's not special. It includes periods of waiting which are going to cut down on snacking/mindless eating (which is a downfall of lots of people) and provides for a "snack" which is likely to promote satiety. Personally though, I think those calories would be better spent on a handful of nuts, low fat dairy, fruit, or some sort of protein. Celery and peanut butter, apples and cheese, a handful of almonds, edamame--all of these things provide protein and, with the exception of the edamame, a bit of fat as well. And, just as important, they provide fiber, vitamins, and minerals all of which you are missing out on by slurping oil.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:25 pm


Even if it does disassociate fat with flavor, the next time you eat anything even remotely fatty and flavorful, it's just going to associate fat with flavour again. The only thing this seems to do is cut cravings, which is only because you're holding off on snacking for an hour before and after, and because you're taking basically a tablespoon of fatty oil or sugar (which isn't flavourless so that's kind of really silly in the first place). As Munkers said, you'd be better off doing the same thing except with an actual snack like nuts or fruit. The technique itself works (waiting a certain amount of time before and after a snack), but the oil is pointless.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:58 pm


I researched it some more and I can actually see and understand how it works. I guess it makes sense, but at the same time, it seems to cut cravings so much that Seth Roberts (the creator of this diet) only ate 1 meal every day or something like that because he never felt hungry. That seems kinda unstable and unsafe and like a starvation method or something.

I think it's worth a try though. It's interesting and I'll experiment on myself. After a while, if I feel like it's unsafe, I'll stick to snacking on almonds and eating my favorite salads.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:45 pm


You might also not be hungry because you're getting a concentrated dose of calories/fat.

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frakkin

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:09 pm


So I decided to see if it was just the spacing out of food. Instead of taking oil, I had a snack of the equivalent calories instead.

I was fine in the beginning of the day, but then I started becoming hungrier. I felt like eating more than I did before. Then I started getting cravings for random junk food. So I decided to take some oil to get rid of them. The cravings and general hungriness went away.


Ick. I hate the feeling of craving food and being hungrier than I should. It's like my stupid body wants to eat too much. And I suddenly started caring less about losing weight and more about eating.

It's working for me, I hate the way I feel not taking it, so I will continue. Luckily, canola oil is a healthier oil than others. So I will continue taking it.

I think others should give it a try. It could help others out who constantly struggle with weight, like me. I constantly give in to my retarded hunger and give up on weight loss after a little while. I feel like a normal person now.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:52 am


You say your snack was equal calories, but what you needed was a snack with equal fat content, too. Just saying. The fat is probably what gives you the full, content feeling. One serving of peanut butter, for example, has a similar fat content. A light snack of veggies or fruit or whatever does not.

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frakkin

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:20 pm


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You say your snack was equal calories, but what you needed was a snack with equal fat content, too. Just saying. The fat is probably what gives you the full, content feeling. One serving of peanut butter, for example, has a similar fat content. A light snack of veggies or fruit or whatever does not.
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Eh. It was cashew butter on toast. Ah well. I still like the oil. It's simple and it works for me. :3
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