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Sam Oaken Willow 17

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:22 am
Okay I found this book on Amazon and it got me thinking. For those creating their own path (and into BDSM), I can see how this could kind of work, but for others I'm not so sure. I haven't read the book--but I'm curious and wanted to hear what you guys think.

http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Moon-Rising-Pagan-Ordeal/dp/1847288928/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I31F90XFLKKWGR&colid=26V2CVO0JWQ2J  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:39 am
My opinion?
If you want to mix your religion and sex life, fine.
If you want to mix your sex life and your interest in BDSM, fine.
If you want to blend all three together- fine.

But do it with someone who isn't going to actually rape you if you decide not to go through with it.

I'll wander back through some of the older posts on the subject and pull up some links about the author.

Edit:
I'm looking through PathWays and I'm having no luck.
I know some of the regs started talking about the experiences with specific groups. Any idea where that was?  

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Sam Oaken Willow 17

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:15 am
Ooh! Links! Awesome, thank you.

I think the book mentioned reenacting a rape to help the victim get over the incident. Which I can say that I've not been raped but have come close so obviously it would be best to go on an individual basis on that one.  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:21 am
Sam Oaken Willow 17

I think the book mentioned reenacting a rape to help the victim get over the incident. Which I can say that I've not been raped but have come close so obviously it would be best to go on an individual basis on that one.


You misunderstand.
At the time we were discussing unwanted sexual acts upon an individual who was engaged in an ordeal.  

TeaDidikai


Sam Oaken Willow 17

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:37 am
Oh okay, you're just concerned about the submissive person in a BDSM situation getting raped in the name of "spiritual advancement." Gotcha.  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:48 am
Sam Oaken Willow 17
Oh okay, you're just concerned about the submissive person in a BDSM situation getting raped in the name of "spiritual advancement." Gotcha.
Vast over simplification. confused  

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:14 pm
I believe we talked about Raven Kaldera's group, and the "ordeals" touted by Raven and the Cauldron Farm site. That is some ******** up s**t, and just to feel clean, I'm going to have to quote Aswyn's citation of the Eddas in her Notice of Disassociation again:

I counsel thee, Loddfafnir,
Wherever of injury thou knowest,
regard that injury as thy own;
and give to thy foes no peace.

But I totally forget what thread this is in. Mostly because my judgement is clouded by the extreme need to hurt people who claim that Odin or Loki want them to be sexual predators.

EDIT: *spits*  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:32 pm
Celeblin Galadeneryn
But I totally forget what thread this is in.
I thought it was in pathways  

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:36 pm
TeaDidikai
Celeblin Galadeneryn
But I totally forget what thread this is in.
I thought it was in pathways
Don't remember it being in pathways, sorry.  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:39 pm
Celeblin Galadeneryn
TeaDidikai
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But I totally forget what thread this is in.
I thought it was in pathways
Don't remember it being in pathways, sorry.
No worries. I could have sworn it was posted by Saint, Vi or Deo, and I thought it had been in Deo's thread- but I have been batting 0 for my searches lately.  

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:44 pm
TeaDidikai
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But I totally forget what thread this is in.
I thought it was in pathways
Don't remember it being in pathways, sorry.
No worries. I could have sworn it was posted by Saint, Vi or Deo, and I thought it had been in Deo's thread- but I have been batting 0 for my searches lately.
The conversation I remember was started by someone new I think, but Vi was involved. I think it's in one of the huge threads like the bad mood one or the main chat one, but possibly in it's own thread.  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:50 pm
If it helps, I think it was someone asking us if one of Kaldera's books were good, or was trying to recommend it.  


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:51 pm
Celeblin Galadeneryn
The conversation I remember was started by someone new I think, but Vi was involved. I think it's in one of the huge threads like the bad mood one or the main chat one, but possibly in it's own thread.
Damn. I have no idea where to find it.

Do you have the link presented on it? I know it discussed the violation experienced in some of these so called "ordeals".  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:58 pm
Ha, I win. I google searched Raven Kaldera and limited the search to gaiaonline.com

link.  


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:04 pm
Celeblin Galadeneryn
Ha, I win. I google searched Raven Kaldera and limited the search to gaiaonline.com

link.
That you do.  
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