The above is a link. This thread isn't like any of the others. It's nothing of importance either, really. I just need to get the reply off my chest, but not on the initial thread above. The count and counterpoint between Mr green and myself was threatening to detract from what was is quite a promising thread.
For clarity of understanding, I was demanding that the drop his comparing me to a white supremacist. I'd said nothing to suggest it and I'm the first to accept that we owe almost everything we have to the combined efforts of every race under the sun. For the most part it's called the Commonwealth, and I'm a fan.
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I demand that you stand down and apologise. If you don't, then you'll jolly well explain where there is a single jot of "white supremacist" language in my above post. Hm?
You carry it around because it's all you have. You know damn well that Ireland is just a different version of England and becoming more-so by the decade and so you cling to your language. Fine, I don't object in the least.
Just don't kid yourself that it's alive. It's not. No-one conducts business in it, no internations translators specialise in it and English is the language used whevener anying of any importance is done.
English is used in law too, and French. They dead too?
You carry it around because it's all you have. You know damn well that Ireland is just a different version of England and becoming more-so by the decade and so you cling to your language. Fine, I don't object in the least.
Just don't kid yourself that it's alive. It's not. No-one conducts business in it, no internations translators specialise in it and English is the language used whevener anying of any importance is done.
English is used in law too, and French. They dead too?
not gonna happen - you strengthened my argument with this very post. "Ireland is just a different version of England"?, "English is used in law, blah, blah."
Ireland is, and always has been its own country. And the lanquage is used by over 10% of the population exclusively, meaning they don't even bother learning english. Over 60% speak both languages.
Also, the EU translates every official document into gaelge. Ireland has been, and always will be independent. Even your loyalists to the north hate england, they just seem to hate the south more.
In every post you've claimed the superiority of english culture. Well, not all of us like your homogenized bleakness, and prefer to continue with our own traditions and culture. Once you recognize the independance of our seperate cultures, maybe i'll recognize the positives of england. until then, take your kkk-complex elsewhere.
> He still didn't explain why he thinks I sound like a "white supremacist", I can only deduce that he doesn't understand the term. Doubly so when you consider that up to that point, there had been no mention of colour. The Irish, Scots and English are all white by background anyway.
> I may have been mistaken, but he doesn't have enough of an argument to hold itself up, let alone to become strengthened by anything I can say. Including the two absolutely irellevant misquotes he took from me.
> He states, needlessly, that 10% of Irishmen can't speak English when I'm sure he understands that it doesn't make the language anything near as useful as English.
> He must surely also know that Ireland has been no more constantly it's own country than most other nations. Indeed, for a fair few years, every inch of it fell within the United Kingdom. Hardly as separate as he tries portray.
> He pretends the Ulster loyalists hate England, which is an odd suggestion. England isn't even a sovereign state, it shouldn't even feature. Let alone find itself under such venom as this bizarre fellow seems to heap upon it.
> He said I asserted the superiority of English culture. Stupid really, English culture is a myth. Except morris dancing and paganism, I suppose, and I'm bloody sure I mentioned neither of those. I mentioned a prevalence of English influence, but that's true. It's happening in most places. I don't like it, but I'll be damned if I'm going to starting handing out leprechaun flags and pretend that it's not the case.
> Ireland and the UK at large are independent, but he cannot surely believe that their respective histories and backgrounds are not inextricably linked?
> I promise to award 10,000g or £20 to anyone who can find a sound argument to support the hypothesis that I have something that could be described as a "KKK complex".
