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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:04 pm


monsters 19

3x blackwing-shura the blue flame
3x blackwing-bora the spear
3x blackwing-kalut the moon shadow
3x blackwing-sirocco the dawn
2x blackwing-blizzard the far north
1x blackwing-gale the whirlwind
2x blackwing-vayu the emblem of honor
1x dark grepher
1x dark armed dragon

spells 12

3x black whrlwind
2x allure of darkness
2x book of moon
1x mystical space typhoon
1x brain control
1x mind control
1x gaint trunade
1x heavy storm

traps 9

3x icarus attack
2x royal oppression
2x bottomless trap hole
1x torrential tribute
1x mirror force
1x Trap dustshoot


extra deck

1x blackwing-siverwind the accendant
1x blackwing armor master
2x blackwing armed wing
1x stardust dragon
1x red dragon archfiend
1x Brionic
1x x saber urbellum
1x black rose dragon
1x ally of justice catastor
1x ancient fairy dragon
1x gaia knight force of the earth
1x goyo guadian
1x flamvell uruquizas
1x collosal fighter

side deck

3x gravekeepers spy
1x the dark creator
1x trap dustshoot
1x royal oppression
2x light imprizoning mirror
3x treatening roar
1x lightning vortex
3x kuriboh (go ahead ask away)
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:29 pm


ile point out the obvious..

+1 Sirocco
-1 elphin

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:29 am


Kaptain_Pretty
ile point out the obvious..

+1 Sirocco
-1 elphin


what are you nuts?
-1 elphin
+1 vayu
------
Vayu has better playability with grave manipulation and swarm.
sirroco is never to be more then 2, it may have pump but swarm is the better option.
-3 kuriboh
+2 Skill Drain(extremely powerful with vayu for field sync, then grave sync.)
+1 Lightning/skilldrain
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:25 pm


Fresh Porn
Kaptain_Pretty
ile point out the obvious..

+1 Sirocco
-1 elphin


what are you nuts?
-1 elphin
+1 vayu
------
Vayu has better playability with grave manipulation and swarm.
sirroco is never to be more then 2, it may have pump but swarm is the better option.
-3 kuriboh
+2 Skill Drain(extremely powerful with vayu for field sync, then grave sync.)
+1 Lightning/skilldrain


LMFAO! Oh god, thank you for that I needed a good laugh.....but seriously, here's something what you deck should look like....

monsters 19

3x blackwing-shura the blue flame
3x blackwing-bora the spear
3x blackwing-kalut the moon shadow
3x blackwing-sirocco the dawn
2x blackwing-blizzard the far north
1x blackwing-gale the whirlwind
2x blackwing-vayu the emblem of honor
1x dark armed dragon
1x D.D Crow

spells 12

3x black whrlwind
2x allure of darkness
2x book of moon
1x mystical space typhoon
1x brain control
1x My Body as a Shield
1x heavy storm

traps 10

3x icarus attack
2x royal oppression
2x bottomless trap hole
1x torrential tribute
1x mirror force
1x Solemn Judgment

That is what the deck should look like, the D.D Crow is optional if you only want to have 40 cards, but this deck can run on 41

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:12 pm


ZanoShiran
Fresh Porn
Kaptain_Pretty
ile point out the obvious..

+1 Sirocco
-1 elphin


what are you nuts?
-1 elphin
+1 vayu
------
Vayu has better playability with grave manipulation and swarm.
sirroco is never to be more then 2, it may have pump but swarm is the better option.
-3 kuriboh
+2 Skill Drain(extremely powerful with vayu for field sync, then grave sync.)
+1 Lightning/skilldrain


LMFAO! Oh god, thank you for that I needed a good laugh....


2 is enough. 3 is excessive and uneccessary. you want swarm with BW not a hand with a tribute you can't use while you have a swarm. Its a waste. 2 is enough for pump combos and allure fodder. Why would you need more?.

Now as for your deck list you posted.besides the sirocco, why only run 1 my body. side deck 3rd icarus in case of mirror match and swarm deck like LS.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:38 pm


Fresh Porn
ZanoShiran
Fresh Porn
Kaptain_Pretty
ile point out the obvious..

+1 Sirocco
-1 elphin


what are you nuts?
-1 elphin
+1 vayu
------
Vayu has better playability with grave manipulation and swarm.
sirroco is never to be more then 2, it may have pump but swarm is the better option.
-3 kuriboh
+2 Skill Drain(extremely powerful with vayu for field sync, then grave sync.)
+1 Lightning/skilldrain


LMFAO! Oh god, thank you for that I needed a good laugh....


2 is enough. 3 is excessive and uneccessary. you want swarm with BW not a hand with a tribute you can't use while you have a swarm. Its a waste. 2 is enough for pump combos and allure fodder. Why would you need more?.

Now as for your deck list you posted.besides the sirocco, why only run 1 my body. side deck 3rd icarus in case of mirror match and swarm deck like LS.


You don't know BW at all do you? 3 sirocco is staple, no excuse. Even if your hand is 3 sirocco, all your opponent has to do is summon or set at least 1 monster and you're golden. Not to mention, with BWW, it goes down the ladder and grabs any other BW you are running. Plus, this deck isn't so much a swarm deck anymore as much as it's a control deck this format. 1 MBaaS is fine, any more is overkill and can cost you more lp than you need to spend with oppression and solemn already in the deck. 3 icarus should also be staple, there aren't many cards in this deck, if any that are good enough to replace what it does.

ZanoShiran


RandallTheGreenGeek

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:05 pm


fresh porn is right (and probably knows blackwings better than you do), 2 sirocco is more than enough; 3 is just asking for trouble
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:14 pm


RandallTheGreenGeek
fresh porn is right (and probably knows blackwings better than you do), 2 sirocco is more than enough; 3 is just asking for trouble


Have either of you EVER played competitively with BW? Go look at ANY good BW deck this format, all of them have 3 sirocco. Why? because this card is God! It is not the sole basis of the deck, but I'd rather have my chances of drawing it at the highest possible chance rather than not. Besides, what in gods name could possibly replace a 3rd sirocco in a BW deck? There isn't anything that you couldn't already fit into the deck that could possibly take priority over a 3rd.

ZanoShiran


RandallTheGreenGeek

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:20 pm


ZanoShiran
RandallTheGreenGeek
fresh porn is right (and probably knows blackwings better than you do), 2 sirocco is more than enough; 3 is just asking for trouble


Have either of you EVER played competitively with BW? Go look at ANY good BW deck this format, all of them have 3 sirocco. Why? because this card is God! It is not the sole basis of the deck, but I'd rather have my chances of drawing it at the highest possible chance rather than not. Besides, what in gods name could possibly replace a 3rd sirocco in a BW deck? There isn't anything that you couldn't already fit into the deck that could possibly take priority over a 3rd.

first off, i face off against at least 3 blackwing decks each week at my local tournament, so don't say i haven't played against them competitively. second, all those BW players are pros, and they only use 2 siroccos because they understand that while sirocco is good for powering up other BWs, 2 is perfect since it gives them room for an extra vayu (or dark grepher, depending on the player's preferences)
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:31 pm


RandallTheGreenGeek
ZanoShiran
RandallTheGreenGeek
fresh porn is right (and probably knows blackwings better than you do), 2 sirocco is more than enough; 3 is just asking for trouble


Have either of you EVER played competitively with BW? Go look at ANY good BW deck this format, all of them have 3 sirocco. Why? because this card is God! It is not the sole basis of the deck, but I'd rather have my chances of drawing it at the highest possible chance rather than not. Besides, what in gods name could possibly replace a 3rd sirocco in a BW deck? There isn't anything that you couldn't already fit into the deck that could possibly take priority over a 3rd.

first off, i face off against at least 3 blackwing decks each week at my local tournament, so don't say i haven't played against them competitively. second, all those BW players are pros, and they only use 2 siroccos because they understand that while sirocco is good for powering up other BWs, 2 is perfect since it gives them room for an extra vayu (or dark grepher, depending on the player's preferences)


1. Pro is a subjective word, anyone can say they are, that doesn't mean **** unless you have credentials.

2. Since when has there been a space issue for a second vayu? refer to my build above plz.

3. Dark Grepher.....proof right there that they have no idea what they are doing.....

That's the thing right there. You play AGAINST BW decks, you do not play it yourself however. Anyone who actually knows what they are doing knows this card is a staple at 3, that is not an opinion, it is a fact. Like I said, tell me one card that can replace a 3rd sirocco in the deck that doesn't already fit into the deck.

ZanoShiran


RandallTheGreenGeek

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:41 pm


no, i suppose i don't play a blackwing deck (nor shall i ever, no originality found with BWs), and perhaps "pro" was too subjective in describing my friends. it's just that i've seen more than my fair share of them, and they all run 2 siroccos and dark grepher, with impressive results. just sharing an honest opinion, that's all. in either case, i say just let the guy run his deck the way he sees fit
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:49 pm


RandallTheGreenGeek
no, i suppose i don't play a blackwing deck (nor shall i ever, no originality found with BWs), and perhaps "pro" was too subjective in describing my friends. it's just that i've seen more than my fair share of them, and they all run 2 siroccos and dark grepher, with impressive results. just sharing an honest opinion, that's all. in either case, i say just let the guy run his deck the way he sees fit


Perhaps, but I'm stating a fact of life rather than an opinion. There is no good reason to not run 3 sirocco in this format, and there sure as **** isn't a good reason to run grepher. There isn't space issue for sirocco, it doesn't slow you down at all, and it runs over almost any 4 star monster you opponent has on the field for you to summon it, plus, it's a gateway monster to any other BW in the deck with BWW and allows for extra summons via Bora and gale, while making an ungodly pump for super pierce.

ZanoShiran


RandallTheGreenGeek

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:01 pm


"fact of life"? IT'S A CHILDREN'S CARD GAME. (dont sue me, LittleKuriboh lol)
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:02 pm


RandallTheGreenGeek
fact of life? it's A CHILDREN'S CARD GAME. (dont sue me, LittleKuriboh)


HEY! This is a very serious children's card game! The fate of the world has been decided by dueling since the dawn of time!

ZanoShiran


RandallTheGreenGeek

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:04 pm


ZanoShiran
RandallTheGreenGeek
fact of life? it's A CHILDREN'S CARD GAME. (dont sue me, LittleKuriboh)


HEY! This is a very serious children's card game! The fate of the world has been decided by dueling since the dawn of time!

and you watch too much anime =/
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