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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:50 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:08 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:05 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:09 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:23 am
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Byaggha I hit similar some time ago, and in my desperate search for 'meaning', did the opposite of DB. I studied harder. I bit into religions I'd never considered before, I questioned their practitioners and priests/priestesses. I read some of their scriptures. I digested and ruminated and tried to observe from every angle. When I was done, I found what I was after - a philosophical faith that made sense to me more than any other, one that grabbed me and engaged me, encouraged me to test and prod as I always have. My suggestion is this: Look, with open eyes. Try to drop your pessimism (or at least shelf it for a bit) and really look at faiths and the reason for them, the rhymes behind them. Your personal answer is out there, if you are ready to see it.
thank you, you are very insightful. i'm not sure how to put aside my pessimism, i was raised to understand that most things in life will suck, so just sit back and accept it. i do not know how to throw out 23 year old mannerisms.
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:41 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:58 am
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Byaggha whiporwill-o thank you, you are very insightful. i'm not sure how to put aside my pessimism, i was raised to understand that most things in life will suck, so just sit back and accept it. i do not know how to throw out 23 year old mannerisms. It is a very difficult process, I agree. 3nodding I still haven't completely shaken my own, and sometimes slip into some moroseness. In all honesty, it takes some serious effort for me to see the good at all, but once you get started on it, it sort of snowballs. biggrin i hope so, thank you again. smile
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:20 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:40 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:44 am
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whiporwill-o TeaDidikai It's not so much a solution as much as perhaps a bit of comfort. What you are experiencing was referred to by Saint John of the Cross as "The long dark night of the soul". Most folks I know experience this. The only cure for it I am aware of is some form of validation- the shifting from UPG to CPG. Unfortunately, this isn't something someone can do for you. My point is more that this is a common phenomena- one that has been answered by many before you in different ways and that you're not alone in your feelings. Heck, I think I even wrote a thread on it ages ago. how does someone find a confirmed gnosis when they dont even know what it is they are looking for anymore? thank you for your words, they do hold some comfort to them. i know that many people experience this feeling, that is why i asked about it. there is no one currently in my life that i can ask these types of questions to or seek advice from. i am glad that i have found a place where i can ask these things. It's a painful process but for me it was taking what I believed and determining whether it is true or not. Different religions are going to have different perspectives on how to go about doing this. If you have had any spiritual experiences, test their validity and internal consistency. Again different religion are going to have different techniques for how to go about testing them.
You are not alone in this. Many of us have been through this or are still going through this.
Edit: Thank you so much DB you never cease to amaze me.
Gho the Girl Sophist How does one move from UPG to CPG? Checking already experienced gnosis with the gnosis you've experienced. This can be through sharing with fellow practitioners or by checking accepted canon.
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:49 am
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:59 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:00 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:14 am
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:01 am
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