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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:44 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:30 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:46 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:29 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:59 pm
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:13 pm
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:30 am
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Acidic Cynic Voldemort, for sure. An important question with regards to Draco is: How will Voldemort react to Snape having to kill Dumbledore for him? We know Voldemort isn't a very fair master, and he seems to enjoy inflicting pain, even on his own followers; so he might ignore Draco's success with the Vanishing Cabinet and punish him for failing to kill Dumbledore. I f Voldemort tries to kill Draco, or does kill him, that will lose him Narcissa, Lucius, perhaps Bellatrix, and probably the support of all the Death Eaters with children. They'll think like Mr and Mrs Black did in the end about purebloods; if him, why not them? But is Voldie as blind to the concept of family loyalty as he is to love? Will he know the consequences of trying to do away with Draco Malfoy? Will that be a factor in his inevitable downfall?
The question becomes moot if Draco and Snape aren't going back to Voldemort. If they are hiding out, then the question becomes: Who's side are they really on? Are they on no one's side, just looking out for themselves? Are they on Harry's side, wanting Big V's downfall? Or are they loyal to V? AND WHY AM i USING SO MANY QUESTION MARKS IN THIS POST????????????
This is a post I just did in the Character Discussion sub-forum. When I was writing this, I developed a theory. Draco's death, or attempted murder, could tear the Death Eaters apart.
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:40 pm
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:33 am
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Basil_Hallward Acidic Cynic This is a post I just did in the Character Discussion sub-forum. When I was writing this, I developed a theory. Draco's death, or attempted murder, could tear the Death Eaters apart. I started saying this in response to your post in the Character Discussion sub-forum I think I'll finish properly now that I've had some time to think. I don't think the Death Eaters would be torn apart of Draco was murdered on Voldemort's orders or by Voldemort himself. Voldemort has done away with alot of people who haven't done exactly as he wanted like Karkaroff and Regulus for example. They both chickened out and so did Draco. Voldemort's followers don't seem keen to leave him even when he kills one of their own, there is no mention of them leaving after Regulus's murder. If they did leave I think he would kill them. If they left they could spread information about his plans to people he doesn't want it to reach so he would dispose of them like he did Karkaroff. I think that Narcissa and Lucius would want out if anything happened to Draco, but I doubt they would survive if they spoke up about it. Ah...but I'm talking mass mutiny...if there were a ringleader stirring it up, say...Snape...then there might be a chance that they'd all rebel...
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:40 pm
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:45 pm
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Basil_Hallward Acidic Cynic Ah...but I'm talking mass mutiny...if there were a ringleader stirring it up, say...Snape...then there might be a chance that they'd all rebel... Mass mutiny, that is very different. It is possible since several Death Eaters know occlumancy (well at least Draco, Bellatrix and Snape) so they might be able to get away with it right under Voldemort's nose. But one of them would have to be brave enough to openly state his or her dislike of Voldemort for it to happen. I'm not sure many of them would willingly state that anywhere near a fellow Death Eater because they might get tattled on. I could see Snape doing that but as we saw with Bellatrix not all of the Death Eaters really trust him all that much (okay well Bella seemed a bit jealous but she can't be the only one who wants to know why Voldemort let Snape rejoin and doesn't trust him because they don't know). It is possible though. Okay, they might not trust him, but if they were desperate and he talked honey enough he might just convince them. Or it might not be Snape. It mght be Greylock, (getting pissed with V and leading a werewolf uprising, with Remus's encouragement) or Narcissa (getting pissed with Lucius's imprisonment and V's non-existent attempts to free him) or even Pettigrew (wanting to be the next Dark Lord). In fact, Draco doesn't necessarily have to die at all.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:01 pm
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:43 am
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Acidic Cynic Basil_Hallward Acidic Cynic Ah...but I'm talking mass mutiny...if there were a ringleader stirring it up, say...Snape...then there might be a chance that they'd all rebel... Mass mutiny, that is very different. It is possible since several Death Eaters know occlumancy (well at least Draco, Bellatrix and Snape) so they might be able to get away with it right under Voldemort's nose. But one of them would have to be brave enough to openly state his or her dislike of Voldemort for it to happen. I'm not sure many of them would willingly state that anywhere near a fellow Death Eater because they might get tattled on. I could see Snape doing that but as we saw with Bellatrix not all of the Death Eaters really trust him all that much (okay well Bella seemed a bit jealous but she can't be the only one who wants to know why Voldemort let Snape rejoin and doesn't trust him because they don't know). It is possible though. Okay, they might not trust him, but if they were desperate and he talked honey enough he might just convince them. Or it might not be Snape. It mght be Greylock, (getting pissed with V and leading a werewolf uprising, with Remus's encouragement) or Narcissa (getting pissed with Lucius's imprisonment and V's non-existent attempts to free him) or even Pettigrew (wanting to be the next Dark Lord). In fact, Draco doesn't necessarily have to die at all. (the emphasis is mine) Plausable, seeing as Greyback's goal is to have werewolves reign supreme I doubt he plans to be Voldemort's lapdog forever. I think he is planning to revolt but I think he would wait untill there are so few wizards left that taking them over would be a cake-walk.
*awaits i_heart_ron's backup* You've always say something that makes me think
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