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 Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:02 am
In so many of the mythologies the act of primal creation is expressed in the gruesome and violent murder of another being. In fact, death as an act of a creation is a prevalent theme within many mythos...
Noteing this, I look at my current studies...where in it has become imperative to examine past "I's" and murder them as well. Every day, I am both lightened and burdened by the death of a past identity...killing my way to myself...and my personal truth.
Even a less metaphorical death is planed for my future, where I hope to undergo a self induced shamanic sickness. Again, murdering my self for personal truth.
This made me wonder, in what ways do others in other paths and traditions experience or perceive death. Do others conduct this divine murder?
In what ways do you perceive such things?
What are your thoughts on Creation through destruction?
How many times have you died, or will you die?
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:01 am
My tradition actually doesn't include murderous Genesis mythology- which upon reflection makes a certain amount of sense.
I can understand, and even respect other traditions "Divine murder". It doesn't really fit with my path however- in no small part due to purity laws. If the concept of Divine Murder is to shed the old and give birth to the new- there are established practices that do just that without flirting with the contamination found in "death".
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:08 am
By your words ("Contamination") Death and Life are seen as polar opposesings then?
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:11 am
Perhaps only once.
November, when It became apparant that my current spiritual path was not working out, and something was pulling me elsewhere. There was no 'gentle transition'; within a week of accepting something was wrong I had let go of the past and replaced it with the new.
Most of the time I just add to my current self.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:13 am
Ethermus Prime By your words ("Contamination") Death and Life are seen as polar opposesings then? No. Contamination is part of both life and death. As is "purification". The problem is that the tools for purification tied to death aren't metaphorical enough unto themselves to work in your metaphor.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:23 am
TeaDidikai Ethermus Prime By your words ("Contamination") Death and Life are seen as polar opposesings then? No. Contamination is part of both life and death. As is "purification". The problem is that the tools for purification tied to death aren't metaphorical enough unto themselves to work in your metaphor. Explain in clearer terms please? I spoke of both metaphorical deaths and actual ones...
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:48 am
Ethermus Prime Explain in clearer terms please? I spoke of both metaphorical deaths and actual ones... Sorry. Being "unclean" exists in both life and death. Metaphorical death doesn't translate across into the tradition because there isn't a "metaphorical" process to remove the "contamination".
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:47 am
Death is part of the harmonizing between the two forces.
On one had, it brings about an end, it destroys... but on another, it creates freedom, allowing the spirit and soul to be liberated from the physcial component. It might be said that it is the final split between the seeds of Anhur and Ahriman within the person.
Metaphorical deaths we don't recognize so much. But then again, we consider life a state of growth and change, so would not apply the term death to such events.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:14 pm
For me, metaphorical death is an important part of everyday life. I have an anxiety disorder that causes, among other things, obsessive thoughts: usually the most unpleasant, shudder-inducing things my mind can come up with. At this point, my only real method of combatting this is to sort out the disordered thoughts from the regular ones (not always easy) and divorce myself from them, "kill" them through separation. It feels both self-destructive and self-restorative.
I suppose this is more psychological than spiritual, but the two overlap quite a bit in my mind.
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