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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:47 pm
I want you all to watch this.. though its not for the feint of heart..

The video is here.

This guy, was either gay or a thief, the video description isnt to sure. But this just saddens me.  
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:50 pm
Horrible, horrible, horrible! I can not watch it all.
Did he die?  

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:53 pm
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Horrible, horrible, horrible! I can not watch it all.
Did he die?
im sure of it. he was lying on the ground lifeless while on fire.  
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:54 pm
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im sure of it. he was lying on the ground lifeless while on fire.


My God!  

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:54 pm
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im sure of it. he was lying on the ground lifeless while on fire.


My God!


Ja.. no matter what thats just messed up.  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:41 pm
Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!  

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:44 pm
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Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!


Sadly no one stepped in.  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:55 pm
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Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!


Sadly no one stepped in.

I have a feeling that maybe someone might have wanted to step in, but didn't because they were afraid. Would we have stepped in if we were there? Or would we have been too scared? This reminds me of the part of the bible with the adulteress who was about to stoned.  

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:23 pm
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Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!


Sadly no one stepped in.

I have a feeling that maybe someone might have wanted to step in, but didn't because they were afraid. Would we have stepped in if we were there? Or would we have been too scared? This reminds me of the part of the bible with the adulteress who was about to stoned.
If it was done "by the will of God" or "it says in the Bible" I don't think many would have the courage to stand up against it. There are many Christians here in the States that won't stand up against injustice or cruelty if its declared to be "God's will" or "in the Bible".  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:24 pm
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Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!


Sadly no one stepped in.

I have a feeling that maybe someone might have wanted to step in, but didn't because they were afraid. Would we have stepped in if we were there? Or would we have been too scared? This reminds me of the part of the bible with the adulteress who was about to stoned.


i would of tried to stop it. but actions are stronger then words. but i kind of remember that part.  

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:26 pm
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Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!


Sadly no one stepped in.

I have a feeling that maybe someone might have wanted to step in, but didn't because they were afraid. Would we have stepped in if we were there? Or would we have been too scared? This reminds me of the part of the bible with the adulteress who was about to stoned.
If it was done "by the will of God" or "it says in the Bible" I don't think many would have the courage to stand up against it. There are many Christians here in the States that won't stand up against injustice or cruelty if its declared to be "God's will" or "in the Bible".


no where in the bible says that it is ok to set someone on fire and beat them for being a thief or gay. we much love everyone.  
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:33 pm
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Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!


Sadly no one stepped in.

I have a feeling that maybe someone might have wanted to step in, but didn't because they were afraid. Would we have stepped in if we were there? Or would we have been too scared? This reminds me of the part of the bible with the adulteress who was about to stoned.
If it was done "by the will of God" or "it says in the Bible" I don't think many would have the courage to stand up against it. There are many Christians here in the States that won't stand up against injustice or cruelty if its declared to be "God's will" or "in the Bible".


no where in the bible says that it is ok to set someone on fire and beat them for being a thief or gay. we much love everyone.
rolleyes I'm not attacking the Bible. Geesh. I'm just saying that some people take things out of context and there are people that believe the out of context things.  

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:37 pm
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Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!


Sadly no one stepped in.

I have a feeling that maybe someone might have wanted to step in, but didn't because they were afraid. Would we have stepped in if we were there? Or would we have been too scared? This reminds me of the part of the bible with the adulteress who was about to stoned.
If it was done "by the will of God" or "it says in the Bible" I don't think many would have the courage to stand up against it. There are many Christians here in the States that won't stand up against injustice or cruelty if its declared to be "God's will" or "in the Bible".


no where in the bible says that it is ok to set someone on fire and beat them for being a thief or gay. we much love everyone.
rolleyes I'm not attacking the Bible. Geesh. I'm just saying that some people take things out of context and there are people that believe the out of context things.

ah sorry then. but yes  
PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:41 pm
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Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!


Sadly no one stepped in.

I have a feeling that maybe someone might have wanted to step in, but didn't because they were afraid. Would we have stepped in if we were there? Or would we have been too scared? This reminds me of the part of the bible with the adulteress who was about to stoned.
If it was done "by the will of God" or "it says in the Bible" I don't think many would have the courage to stand up against it. There are many Christians here in the States that won't stand up against injustice or cruelty if its declared to be "God's will" or "in the Bible".

I think I have to disagree with you there, but only a little (and mostly because I haven't been on my soapbox for a while xd ). Cultural acceptance probably has more to do with what's allowed than saying it's "God's will". Look at the Westboro Baptist Church: if Christians know about them, than they express disgust about them. For a more mainstream example, ask a random Christian if they think gay bullying is okay. I bet most would say it's not (followed by an explanation of why they still consider homosexuality a sin). I'm not saying Christians won't let things go further if they think it's in the name of God's cause, but I think most subcultures are like that. The purpose of being a Christian means we're not supposed to let each other get away with that, but hold each other to a higher standard where we actively help people, instead of letting anyone cause harm in the name of religious fervor.

Now having said that, I'm not saying we all would have stepped in; I think it's more likely we'd call the police. That's what people do in our culture.  

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:48 am
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Exactly. This just reeks of evil. Even if he was gay or a thief, that is NOT okay! Jesus loved all, even sinners. And He calls us to love sinners and stand against injustice. This is clearly injustice!


Sadly no one stepped in.

I have a feeling that maybe someone might have wanted to step in, but didn't because they were afraid. Would we have stepped in if we were there? Or would we have been too scared? This reminds me of the part of the bible with the adulteress who was about to stoned.
If it was done "by the will of God" or "it says in the Bible" I don't think many would have the courage to stand up against it. There are many Christians here in the States that won't stand up against injustice or cruelty if its declared to be "God's will" or "in the Bible".

I think I have to disagree with you there, but only a little (and mostly because I haven't been on my soapbox for a while xd ). Cultural acceptance probably has more to do with what's allowed than saying it's "God's will". Look at the Westboro Baptist Church: if Christians know about them, than they express disgust about them. For a more mainstream example, ask a random Christian if they think gay bullying is okay. I bet most would say it's not (followed by an explanation of why they still consider homosexuality a sin). I'm not saying Christians won't let things go further if they think it's in the name of God's cause, but I think most subcultures are like that. The purpose of being a Christian means we're not supposed to let each other get away with that, but hold each other to a higher standard where we actively help people, instead of letting anyone cause harm in the name of religious fervor.

Now having said that, I'm not saying we all would have stepped in; I think it's more likely we'd call the police. That's what people do in our culture.
I agree with you mostly. In Western culture we have been moving toward this though we do still let our instinctual tribalism get in our way. When the tribalism instinct kicks in, we tend to forget who our neighbor is and classify them as an other. I would include calling the police as stepping in.

Edit: I'm not saying tribalism is bad, but rather that it has some side effects that we do always readily pick up on due to it being instinctual. If we perceive someone or something to be a threat to our tribe's well being, we seek to destroy it. Due to this being instinctual, reason and logic usually comes into play after the fact, though more often than not, rationalizing why such a behavior was necessary takes precedence over critical analysis. Critical analysis takes much more time to perform than rationalizations, and time could mean life or death of a tribe member(s).  
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