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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:53 pm
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Fiddlers Green Ainwyn Fiddler, you're making want to start practicing my violin again, which I don't have time for! Maybe over winter break. Mayhaps. Again, I do apologize if I am causing duress. I personally find music to be a wonderful tool for assisting the mind in finding concordant rhythm. Furthermore, the promulgation of beauty enriches the world as a whole. It should not cause discord.
The problem here being that I already have a cello to make gorgeous music on, and don't practice it as often as I should! I'm getting better though sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:54 am
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Fiddlers Green Shearaha I told my husband how much I enjoy talking with you and that in certian ways that you speak you remind me of him. He got jealous xd eek That is entirely contrary to my aims. I would never intend to cause marital dissonance. Please, express my most sincere apologies for anything that might seem inappropriate in my conduct. sweatdrop Also, that prop... It aims to create more regulation by making a standardized board to establish legal minimums? The fear is that once these minimums are established, they will seldom be exceeded? Oh no, no disonence. It was more of a play jealosy. He got all puffed up, it made me laugh and it ended up in a very very good place. He knows me well enough that having an acquaintance online who I enjoy talking with will have no detriment to our marriage.
The idea behind the prop is to establish minimums for care that would be achievable by family farmers, the majority of farms in Ohio are run solely by families. It's a way to try and keep factory farms from moving in while maintaining jobs for Ohioans. The good thing about this is these regulations would be state wide. Right now eah county has it's own standards and some are, sub-par, to say the least. It would also allow the oppurtunity for standards to be raised by the board. Individual counties could still have their laws on the books, even those that would require more then the state law.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:04 am
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:09 am
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:55 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:15 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:38 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:39 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:52 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:46 pm
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Sophist Recursive Paradox I'm of the poly mindset so I not only don't want to be the "most" important person in a person's life I don't believe anyone should be the most important person, but instead that someone has many important people that they love. I would obviously be incompatible with someone who did not share that view. My poly mindset also removes possession. I'm perfectly fine with even people I'm in a sexual relationship with being with other people. Just as long as those people are safe and time is equally shared. In fact I tend to feel constricted (or as though I'm constricting others) in a possessive monogamous relationship. Ah, I see, I didn't know you were also poly. Thanks for sharing. Although this probably just makes me more confused.
XD Sorries? I can be confusing sometimes.
Aino Ailill Recursive Paradox Aino Ailill How does romantic love without sexual attraction differ from simply being very close friends? How many of your close friends do you wish you were attracted to? Not a one, but I don't see sexual attraction as bringing a person closer together so I am not certain how that proves anything as that view-point is what seems to motivate this desire?
I don't see sexual attraction as bringing anyone closer together either. I don't believe that romantic love is somehow a closer bond than friend based love at a high intensity (essentially how one would define a close friend) and don't really subscribe to the common social concept in Western culture of "true love" and of partnered romantic love being inherently higher intensity than the love between two intensely close friends.
So my question to you really had nothing to do with that concept. It was more to establish context as being outside what is characteristic for love between close friends.
My separation of the two is based around the context of the love itself. I consider wishing one was sexually attracted to someone with that sort of intensity of love present as putting it into a different context than close friends.
Close friend love isn't really marked by a desire to become romantically involved (that would imply romantic love, which is a different context). Close friend love doesn't really include a wish they could be attracted to one another so they could become romantic partners as a characteristic. It seems to me that such is a bit outside of that context.
I may be rambling but largely I feel there are some issues with the concept of Close Friend Love + Sex = Romantic Love.
1: The concept that romantic love is simply close friend love + sexual attraction also begs the question, "is it possible for a non attraction type asexual to ever have a romantic relationship? Or does an asexual love a partner as a close friend?" This likely wouldn't be applicable to asexuals that just have no sex drive (but still possess attraction) but the ace community really dislikes the claims out there that they are incapable of romantic relationships and such a concept of romantic love invariably seems to move towards such a claim.
2: There is the concept of ******** and friends with benefits and I imagine that a sufficiently close set of friends could both possess sexual attraction and sexual involvement but not consider themselves romantically involved in any way (and still consider themselves just close friends). Are these people wrong about the function of their relationship? The concept that romantic love is close friend love with sex involved is countered by the concept of friends with benefits, i.e. friends (including close ones) who are attracted to one another and do in fact have sexual involvement but do not in any way consider it romantic involvement.
Of course, all of this could simply translate into the idea that splitting love into different contexts (e.g. splitting up close friend love, romantic love, family love, etc) is in and of itself a subjective and/or flawed characterization system that simply can not follow a functional semi objective system for categorization. I know a lot of folks just pretty much roll with whatever the folks feeling the love say they feel, instead of trying to quantify and qualify it.
Thoughts? Let me know if any of that was awkwardly put or incoherent. I'm writing this after having driven for 11 hours on maybe 5 hours of sleep the night before.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:47 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:53 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:03 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:04 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:11 pm
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Calixti Recursive Paradox I am exhausted. But visiting Maine was awesome. Error's cat is probably the most zany cat I have ever met. He does backflips. o.O I need evidence. Preferably video evidence. This sounds AWESOME.
11 hour drive means no video evidence for you for a while. XD
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