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[Recursive Paradox]

SpaceTerminal Destiny

Recursive Paradox

He read the letter and now there's an email in my inbox. Three guesses what it's about.

Anger?
Disgust?
"You're not allowed to come back home? gonk

3rd one. I'm also not allowed to contact him directly.

It's not disownment though. He's worried about his security clearance which is coming up for renewal right now.

However, he also thinks he knows more about this than the APA, trained doctorate holding psychologists and psychiatrists and an endocrinologist. Which is a little bit ******** stupid on his part.  

[Calixti]

So if things just don't go disasterously (they don't even have to go well exactly, they just need to not be a total disaster), it looks like I'll be moving into my own apartment in June. biggrin My mum wants to come down to Lincoln and look at the apartment possibilities I'm considering with me, which I'm grateful for, because she's more likely to notice structural-type stuff that needs fixing than I am, and the landlord may be more inclined to rent to an unemployed college student with visible parental support than one who looks like she's on her own. sweatdrop

Now, I'm just making a list of apartment-type stuff I'll need. I've already got a bed, desk, dresser, desk chair, and bookcases; my mum said she and Daddy can give me their spare coffee table and a few chairs, and probably a nightstand; I still need, furniture-wise, some kind of table-type thing and a chair or two for the kitchen, and eventually a couch or something. I'll need to buy at least one trash can, curtains, pots, pans, dishes, glasses, silverware, measuring cups, knives, a mixer, a broom and mop, a vacuum, and a litterbox for my cats, as well as cat dishes. Anyone else who's already done the whole moving-out thing have any advice, or anything to add to the list that I'm missing?  

[maenad nuri]

Calixti

. Anyone else who's already done the whole moving-out thing have any advice, or anything to add to the list that I'm missing?

Get married. Totally works in getting stuff. Barring that, hand me downs. The half of my stuff that wasn't a wedding present is from a grandparent. My mixer is the bomb (if I ever use it. I do most my mixing by hand)  

[maenad nuri]

Collowrath

maenad nuri

Collowrath

A few days ago I gave Apollon an offering and begged him to give me some guidance. Since then I've been having the strangest dreams about airplanes. I have absolutely no idea what to make of it.

neutral

You need to fly. Either that, or Hermes is the one that answered.

That's a distinct possibility that I overlooked earlier this morning. I've given Hermes offerings regularly - especially last week. There was a nasty accident on the highway and I was stuck in my car with a dying battery, overheating, low oil pressure. I was begging Hermes for a safe trip, and I barely made it home when my car died. I gave him a second offering that day (it was 4th Mounikhión).

A friend has also been trying to get me to move to Arizona with her and transfer to ASU. My personal life has me begging for escape, but I don't think I should go into detail here.

I wish I had your dedication to daily practice. It is something I struggle with and always have.  

[maenad nuri]

Recursive Paradox

SpaceTerminal Destiny

Recursive Paradox

He read the letter and now there's an email in my inbox. Three guesses what it's about.

Anger?
Disgust?
"You're not allowed to come back home? gonk

3rd one. I'm also not allowed to contact him directly.

It's not disownment though. He's worried about his security clearance which is coming up for renewal right now.

However, he also thinks he knows more about this than the APA, trained doctorate holding psychologists and psychiatrists and an endocrinologist. Which is a little bit ******** stupid on his part.

Just a bit stupid. We're here if you need us. (It does suck though about the clearance)  

[Calixti]

maenad nuri

Calixti

. Anyone else who's already done the whole moving-out thing have any advice, or anything to add to the list that I'm missing?

Get married. Totally works in getting stuff.

Can't in my state. Could hop the border to Iowa now, I guess, but Nebraska still wouldn't recognise it, and neither would UNL (and if they [UNL] did, I'd lose dependent status). Besides, I don't have a girlfriend. crying

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Barring that, hand me downs. The half of my stuff that wasn't a wedding present is from a grandparent. My mixer is the bomb (if I ever use it. I do most my mixing by hand)

Pretty much how I'm getting most of my furniture. My parents are giving me old stuff they've accumulated and that's sort of sitting in the basement gathering dust. Aside from that, we're going to hit up the Goodwill here in Lincoln, and my mum's going to ask some friends of hers if they have any spare apartment furnishings. I'm going to hit up Freecycle and Craigslist in a few weeks too.  

[Autumnal Light]

Fiddlers Green

At the risk of alienating people...
I find that article to be Humanocentric Dreck liberally spiced with quasi-solipsistic justifications. All placed in an easy to swallow Judeo-Christo-coating. He eventually gets around to a couple points that make me not want to feed his entrails to some of my friends, he eventually does encourage awareness of all the world around us, but in placing the same value on an owned thing as a free thing, he loses me entirely. Keep in mind, I consider humans a part of the world, and the dance of vis therein, however, our potency has long exceeded our sentience.

His little rant has demonstrated an utter lack of respect for any Dei Loci, and rendered them all into things that humans can process without any sort of lessening of their inherent selves.

Now, accusations of fluffdom come as they will, as an animist, his words reek of murder and slavery, narrowly justified with the old stand buy of Because we can, it is perfectly natural and right that we should.

Now beyond my person views.
He makes points easy enough for people to swallow that it can lead to progress, and there are plenty of tree-hugging dirt-worshippers who don't understand that humans are actually, le gasp, a part of the world. At core, our habits are no less natural than a beaver building a dam, a bird building a nest, or a disease wiping out a species. It is the scope we can apply them to that can be offensive to the locals. Emphasis on can be. There are very harmonious ways to grow, develop and expand. He at least touches on that, which is very important. Loving the natural world does not exclude loving humanity as well. It does not exclude loving our works. We have thumbs, it's sorta natural that we be tool users. wink
A good primer for some people, but don't show it to a person who actually has anything resembling a respect based relationship with any Genus Loci.

You needn't worry about me being alienated or even miffed. Those sorts of things never occurred to me since I'm not an animist and don't currently believe (or disbelieve) the existence of any deities. In class, we got to read additional essays countering Cronon's point of view that helped highlight some of his assumptions and deficiencies, although never in a religious regard. I consider your response very helpful for rounding out the criticism.

The Judeo-Christian thing was pretty overdone in my opinion. I guess I'm just used to overlooking that sort of thing. The thing I liked most was the "humans are a part of nature and must recognize this fact to successfully live with the environment" bit.

Your post highlights to me the fact that I really don't understand the perspective of animists very well. Congratulations! You've just inspired a thread topic. mrgreen  

[Gho the Girl]

I think that the way I shall do spirit work will be to create spirit forms, or use the ones I already have, and invoke them.  

[saint dreya]

maenad nuri

The errors are astounding. My profile was wrong and I was locked out of my account when I got home. GUH. I thought I'd been hacked again.

yeah, that was rather funny - fielding im's while i was at work, XP

Collowrath

A friend has also been trying to get me to move to Arizona with her and transfer to ASU. My personal life has me begging for escape, but I don't think I should go into detail here.

NO!!!

no ASU...blech!  

[Collowrath]

saint dreya

Collowrath

A friend has also been trying to get me to move to Arizona with her and transfer to ASU. My personal life has me begging for escape, but I don't think I should go into detail here.

NO!!!

no ASU...blech!

You're the second person I know to have that reaction. sweatdrop

Is it really that bad?  

[Collowrath]

maenad nuri

Collowrath

maenad nuri

Collowrath

A few days ago I gave Apollon an offering and begged him to give me some guidance. Since then I've been having the strangest dreams about airplanes. I have absolutely no idea what to make of it.

neutral

You need to fly. Either that, or Hermes is the one that answered.

That's a distinct possibility that I overlooked earlier this morning. I've given Hermes offerings regularly - especially last week. There was a nasty accident on the highway and I was stuck in my car with a dying battery, overheating, low oil pressure. I was begging Hermes for a safe trip, and I barely made it home when my car died. I gave him a second offering that day (it was 4th Mounikhión).

A friend has also been trying to get me to move to Arizona with her and transfer to ASU. My personal life has me begging for escape, but I don't think I should go into detail here.

I wish I had your dedication to daily practice. It is something I struggle with and always have.

I struggle with it on occasion. Regular practice helps to keep me grounded - without it, I feel like I'm floating away and out of control. For me, it's very grounding to look at my calendar at the third of the month and think: "How should I honor Athena today?" Structure is very necessary for me >.<  

[Fiddlers Green]

mute_coyote

You needn't worry about me being alienated or even miffed. Those sorts of things never occurred to me since I'm not an animist and don't currently believe (or disbelieve) the existence of any deities. In class, we got to read additional essays countering Cronon's point of view that helped highlight some of his assumptions and deficiencies, although never in a religious regard. I consider your response very helpful for rounding out the criticism.

Glad it helped. surprised

mute_coyote

The Judeo-Christian thing was pretty overdone in my opinion. I guess I'm just used to overlooking that sort of thing. The thing I liked most was the "humans are a part of nature and must recognize this fact to successfully live with the environment" bit.

It's something too many of my fellow animists overlook.
that's what separates me from the Blood makes the green grass grow, tree hugging, human hating, Dirt Worshippers.

mute_coyote

Your post highlights to me the fact that I really don't understand the perspective of animists very well. Congratulations! You've just inspired a thread topic. mrgreen

To understand my perspective might, in fact, be unnatural.
We are limited by what we can perceive, our own points of view.
Furthermore, I'm, by some accounts, nuttier than a fruit cake.
The perspective I hold is coming to the table with an understanding that the wants and desires of the animus of a location are just as valid as any humans.

Furthermore, an interesting dissenting opinion is from U.S. supreme Court Associate Justice William O. Douglas. His view can be found Here.
For my part, I agree that the conceit that a corporation can have an identity, but a landmark can't, is out right ridiculous. There are little gods in both. To legally recognize, to societally accept, one and not the other is very unfair.  

[saint dreya]

Collowrath

saint dreya

Collowrath

A friend has also been trying to get me to move to Arizona with her and transfer to ASU. My personal life has me begging for escape, but I don't think I should go into detail here.

NO!!!

no ASU...blech!

You're the second person I know to have that reaction. sweatdrop

Is it really that bad?

sorry sweatdrop . i live in Tucson. i'm a Wildcat fan. knee-jerk reaction to the Sun Devils.

in other news, i'm smarter than my puzzle ring - i put it back together! after watching a youtube video, *le sigh*  

[Fiddlers Green]

Recursive Paradox

SpaceTerminal Destiny

Recursive Paradox

He read the letter and now there's an email in my inbox. Three guesses what it's about.

Anger?
Disgust?
"You're not allowed to come back home? gonk

3rd one. I'm also not allowed to contact him directly.

It's not disownment though. He's worried about his security clearance which is coming up for renewal right now.

However, he also thinks he knows more about this than the APA, trained doctorate holding psychologists and psychiatrists and an endocrinologist. Which is a little bit ******** stupid on his part.

~huggles~
I'm sorry. neutral  

[Wrath of Ezekiel]

*Hugs Paradox*

In other news, I just threw a bunch of resumes at the Apple Store for three positions ( xDDDD) and a few specialized positions at the Art Gallery of Ontario in Toronto.
Hooray for summer job hunting. stare

Frankly, the first two things out of my mother's mouth when I came home after two months: you got fat and did you find a job. gonk scream