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Gho the Girl

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:16 pm


Recursive Paradox
@Tea: Yay dancing!

Gho the Girl
Well, the second list makes me feel better about not being able to transition. I'd say "drive them away with an "I like Girls" t-shirt, but depending upon the breed of heterosexual male, that might actually backfire.


Especially since a lot of guys have assumed that lesbian means "threesome material"? Yeah, definitely a backfiring situation.
Funny thing is, when I first came out of the closet, I wished I were a straight girl so I could get guys easier.

Turns out I don't want straight guys xp
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:51 pm


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mute_coyote
Recursive Paradox

1: Bye bye male privilege, I didn't even realize I had you till you were gone. o_O

Do you mind my asking what kinds of differences you've noticed?


Everyone wants to do things for me instead of just telling me how it works so I can do it myself and learn it. Especially with computers. I actually have to snarl at people to let go of my ******** mouse and keyboard so I can learn this stuff.

People ignore what I'm saying or gloss over their eyes more often now, even when I'm talking about intelligent or scientific stuff and it's within their field. It's like what I say suddenly has less validity than it used to, simply because I have boobs.

There's a lot of assumptions regarding my emotional state too, that get sort of irritating. People assume I'll get upset at a lot of things that aren't upsetting.

People have assumed now that I like being sexually objectified by crude comments and are surprised when I get offended. Sometimes they get indignant at my offense.

That's all I can remember right now.


This kind of thing drives me nuts. I don't mind when my husband does the first. He's my husband, in that case it goes both ways. But when some guy I don't know tries to do my work for me, or instead of showing me just does it, it drives me nuts.

The boobs, yeah thats why I'm glad mine are small. B cup FTW 3nodding If I wear a baggy shirt you hardly notice them.

I work with a lot of guys, but my office is full of girls. At any time one of us is "on" so...

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Maze

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:02 pm


Urgh. D: I second the pet peeve about people who think you want them to be their boyfriends because you're 'flirting' with them, when all you do is smile and act friendly.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:24 pm


the one where my period is automatically the reason why i might have a problem with someone is my biggest pet peeve.

what a way to invalidate someone and their feelings because they're "temporarily insane". because that's exactly what it is doing - you don't actually feel that way, it's just your chemical imbalance talking.

i have enough control that i don't let everything i think drip from my mouth. when i get that upset, it's actually me talking.

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Recursive Paradox

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:17 pm


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@RP- To an extent, welcome to womanhood. I've found some guys have this unconscious thing about women needing their help and protection all the time. It can be quite endearing at times and damn annoying at other times.


It's only endearing to me if I actually need help or protection. Which is rarely if ever. And then I generally ask for it. >.<

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As for the glazing over thing cos you have boobs, thats just plain rudeness.


They tend to just gravitate to them too. At some point I'm going to start getting pissed off and doing the "my face is up here, a*****e" thing.

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By far the most annoying thing a minority of guys do (the rude sexist ones mostly) is automatically assume you have PMS everytime you get even remotely moody.


Oh my ******** god. I forgot that one. Guys pull that s**t on me all the time. Even the ones who know I'm trans and are aware that I have a steady, non-cycling flow of estrogen and T blockers still blame my hormones when I'm pissed off.

Um no... thanks, I'm angry because people are being dicks or are being stupid. Not because I'm hormonal. ******** class="quote">
mute_coyote

I think a lot of guys are raised with the notion that women like having things done for them, that it's attractive and a sign of chivalry. Frankly, I'd be more attracted to somebody who taught me how to do something rather than doing it for me.


You'd think they'd stop doing it as soon as they found out I was lez. I won't find a guy attractive no matter how much of my things he carries. He could even carry me and I wouldn't find him hot. x_x

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Some guys are great to hang out with; others assume that because you're talking to them you think they're hot. *facepalm*


This. That attitude drives me crazy. Being polite and friendly is NOT flirting. Guys need to stop thinking it is. *facepalm*
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:18 pm


Gho the Girl

Turns out I don't want straight guys xp


Well remember, there are nice ones. *nodnod* Quite a few nice straight guys in this guild, I'd say. I can't make claims regarding attractiveness though as I don't experience attraction to boys.

Recursive Paradox


Fiddlers Green

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:24 pm


CuAnnan
SELL THAT s**t

If it is the case, I will, at most, alternate between donating and selling.
The first dose will be free.
After that, if I do decide to mine my body out for profit, it shall not be all the time.
This may be that chance to leave the world a better place... I won't hold out for a pay off.
The diseases my possible strangeness wards against are vile and I would wish them on no one.
I always talk big about bleeding for what I believe in.
This may be my chance to demonstrate the truth of that matter.


Ah, I see now.
So that is male privilege.
I thought it was just peeing standing up.
First of all, I have no idea what sort of internal/emotional things are happening when y'all have your moonblood. It seems like a private matter and I would leave it as such.
The culture I was raised in has very different expectations from the sexes.
I strive to uphold the expectations I foster within myself, without forcing them on others. Strive is the key word.
Of course my time in the Army hardly helped. It added an extra distinction between Civilians and Soldiers.
My habit of being protective of ladies (as much my own martyr complex as any "misogyny") was exasperated by the overwhelming majority of females I know being civilians, and thus in need of protection, not that male civilians need protection any less... just the way the two groups over lap.
I probably, truth be told, hold more misandry than anything else... as I find myself more often heaping my cultural expectations for masculine behavior on others who are male. Mind you, one can opt out of being considered male, I personally believe gender aught be as much a choice as profession or dinner salad. However, internally, I find slightly greater difficulty in allowing someone to opt into my gender than out of it. I keep thinking of the person as a lady, and act accordingly. I know it must be frustrating. Mind you, I don't think any less of ladies, but I do tend to be... coddling? Unintentionally patronizing? Overtly/inappropriately solicitous after their well being? I don't hit ladies. The punctuation at the end of that sentence is in bold. I'll give my spot in an evac or on a life boat to a lady. That's the sort of thing I'm talking about.
That having been said, I suppose I do consider being a Man being part of some magical club with super powers. Not that the Lady's club is any less magical or super-powered, just that it is different. It is not the club I am a part of, thus I have no right to make expectations of it.

Wow, and this from someone who usually considers his gender identity fairly weak... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:32 pm


Fiddlers Green
Ah, I see now.
So that is male privilege.
I thought it was just peeing standing up.
First of all, I have no idea what sort of internal/emotional things are happening when y'all have your moonblood. It seems like a private matter and I would leave it as such.
The culture I was raised in has very different expectations from the sexes.
I strive to uphold the expectations I foster within myself, without forcing them on others. Strive is the key word.
Of course my time in the Army hardly helped. It added an extra distinction between Civilians and Soldiers.
My habit of being protective of ladies (as much my own martyr complex as any "misogyny") was exasperated by the overwhelming majority of females I know being civilians, and thus in need of protection, not that male civilians need protection any less... just the way the two groups over lap.
I probably, truth be told, hold more misandry than anything else... as I find myself more often heaping my cultural expectations for masculine behavior on others who are male. Mind you, one can opt out of being considered male, I personally believe gender aught be as much a choice as profession or dinner salad. However, internally, I find slightly greater difficulty in allowing someone to opt into my gender than out of it. I keep thinking of the person as a lady, and act accordingly. I know it must be frustrating. Mind you, I don't think any less of ladies, but I do tend to be... coddling? Unintentionally patronizing? Overtly/inappropriately solicitous after their well being? I don't hit ladies. The punctuation at the end of that sentence is in bold. I'll give my spot in an evac or on a life boat to a lady. That's the sort of thing I'm talking about.
That having been said, I suppose I do consider being a Man being part of some magical club with super powers. Not that the Lady's club is any less magical or super-powered, just that it is different. It is not the club I am a part of, thus I have no right to make expectations of it.

Wow, and this from someone who usually considers his gender identity fairly weak... sweatdrop

I imagine most people don't think about their gender identities too much. Beliefs and expectations about gender can be so deeply ingrained in culture that it can be hard to assess your own place within the whole thing until you or someone else transgress the norms.

As someone outside your culture reading the above writings, I see you as someone with a very strong gender identity. Maybe you don't normally see it as such, because it's so ingrained in your culture and worldview?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:33 am


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They tend to just gravitate to them too. At some point I'm going to start getting pissed off and doing the "my face is up here, a*****e" thing.

Small boobs FTW. When I was still in High School, I was really insecure about the size. Technically I'm considered B, but I can wear As no problem. But, the more I noticed the type of "attention" big breasted girls got, I was kind of relieved. Thankfully I found a guy who doesn't give a flying ******** about my bra size and likes them as is. 3nodding

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I'm angry because people are being dicks or are being stupid. Not because I'm hormonal. ********.

QFT. The "oh she's on the rag" bullshit makes me want to actually go batshit insane on them for real, so they'll know what that really means. My hormones do NOT automatically make me a b***h, instead they make me a teary-eyed sob story sweatdrop . Besides, some girls just use hormones as an excuse to be a b***h on a regular cycle, or even feel ENTITLED to be a b***h just because society says it's within the norm.

Fiddler's Green brings up a good point though. How do they know if you like being treated chivalrously or not? And if women respond with differently leveled anger or frustration every time, how is that going to help them understand what they should do?


In other news, I saw my very first Charlie Chaplin silent film last night, "Modern Times". 1930's comedy is great, and I finally understand the link between the tramp/hobo look in the older Looney Tunes cartoons. whee
PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:32 am


Fiddlers Green
If it is the case, I will, at most, alternate between donating and selling.
The first dose will be free.
After that, if I do decide to mine my body out for profit, it shall not be all the time.
This may be that chance to leave the world a better place... I won't hold out for a pay off.
The diseases my possible strangeness wards against are vile and I would wish them on no one.
I always talk big about bleeding for what I believe in.
This may be my chance to demonstrate the truth of that matter.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:38 pm


I got to see a traditional Mongolian group perform a couple days ago and it will probably end up being one of the best concerts I'll get to see all year (I would say the best, but I'm going to see Yo-Yo Ma in a month biggrin heart ). Sadly it was only an hour long, so they didn't play everything on their program... which is why we're going to their concert at a nearby town tomorrow! It'll be nice to experience their full concert, with more dancing and talking and such. Plus, they had a "shaman drum solo" on their program that they didn't perform, which I'm really looking forward to.
And now I want a morin khuur (horse-head fiddle) soooo badly! I was drooling over them at the concert and my fiancee just looked at me and got that "oh god, not another instrument, don't you have enough?!" look in her eye. teehee
PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:51 pm


Fiddlers Green
Some people take pride symbols to mean Bi as well as purely same-sex.
Bi Pride colors are Blue>Purple> Pink.

mute_coyote
I wish they showed this in sex ed. <3
This one too.

My boss showed me that one! gonk

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:27 pm


TeaDidikai
mute_coyote
I wish they showed this in sex ed. <3
This one too.

My boss showed me that one! gonk
oh gods! the first one made me never want to have sex again.

the second made me want to make 'em, XP

truthfully, i was half expecting one to pop.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:59 pm


anyone want to email me obsessively during work? All my normal email buddies are off being dorks, leaving me with no one to keep me occupied. HELP!

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TeaDidikai

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:07 pm


maenad nuri
anyone want to email me obsessively during work? All my normal email buddies are off being dorks, leaving me with no one to keep me occupied. HELP!
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