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Violet Song jat Shariff Crew
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:49 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:57 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:26 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:29 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:34 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:55 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:35 pm
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CuAnnan The Indubitable Katie-Kat My history book is terrible. If I have to read one more word about FEARLESS explorers who ventured west into DANGEROUS AND HOSTILE INDIAN TERRITORY and the COMPASSION of the US government in their attempts to turn those SAVAGE INDIANS into good honest farmers I wonder if they used potato eating Irishmen as their front line. The textbook only mentions Chinese and Mexican immigrants, actually. Like I said, terrible book.
Quote: The Indubitable Katie-Kat the US is the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD because we examine our own history objectively Yeah, coz we Irish study it subjectively. So do the English, French, Germans, Spanish, Italians, etc. Hell, I'm willing to bet that other countries study their history MORE objectively than a lot of mainstream American historians. Every history class I've ever taken--including college-level now--has been obsessed with teaching students what a BDH America is and how oppression in this country is a thing of the past and we're so progressive and have more rights than anywhere else in the world, which anyone with a lick of sense knows is a bunch of bullshit. Sigh.
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:47 pm
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patch99329 Celeblin Galadeneryn patch99329 Celeblin Galadeneryn The Good: Studying the Iliad is so amazingly awesome I cannot tell you. Indeed, we jst finished book 16. w00t. My classics teacher has become set in his ways I think, he frequently gets little things wrong. Upon commenting on a sacrifice he started saying how the ancient greeks always gave the gods the choice cuts of meat. OMG, This is explained in ******** BOOK ONE, where Chryses talks about giving Apollo the thigh pieces, and then, later on, in the feast, it's explained how it's done. You cut all the meat off the bone, wrap it in fat, and burn it. This isn't little. This is big. Why? GODS DO NOT EAT MEAT (in the Iliad, and it's an important point therein. They may not eat meat anywhere else either, even when they're in disguise, but I can't say that for sure.) The eating of cooked meat distinguishes you as human. In fact, if you read the Iliad, the humans never eat anything that isn't cooked in some manner (meat, bread, cheese). The eating of raw meat distinguishes you as monster/animal. The Gods are above all of this and only enjoy the Savour of the sacrifices, beyond their own immortal food. Quote: He reccomends Graves as a credible source PFFFFFFFFFFFT rolleyes Quote: and dosen't get the idea of Cthonic gods. What is there not to get? ...he's a truly lovely man. But as you can see, we do get into the odd argument. As for the meat thing, I thought the myth of prometheus explained why the gods got the inedibles... He's very epic-poem centric in his studies; I don't think he backs it up with any background info of the culture, rather sees it all as a big poem to be interpreted however one wants. This right here tells me he's not all that epic poem centric, because what he's not doing is EXACTLY what a Homerist should be doing. Epic poem is very well defined structurally, especially Homeric epic. What exactly are you supposed to interpret an aristeia as other than an aristeia (of course, all aristeia in the Iliad are basically Achilleus doublets, but I digress)?
Quote: When the sides take the oath, he thought one of the sheep was black because it symbolized that achilles would die. He sounds like an Oxford Homerist.
That is unfortunately not a compliment.
Kat and Cu: My history classes were... surprisingly objective then. When got to the sixties it would be like "And here is how we ******** the Natives up the a** and why we're giving them free tuition and letting them fish all they want."
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:23 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:45 pm
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:02 am
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:59 am
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:50 am
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:25 am
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