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 Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:18 pm
CuAnnan My argument was that I know mine sing. I know no such thing about yours. Mine have not been desecrated by the people who destroyed the singers of their songs. Yours have. Then I inferred incorrectly. Actually interested? The Heida have some amazing mythology (that I can't really do justice) but I'll try if you like. My name sake is counted amongst there too. Quote: Either "An Corrán Tuathail" or Carauntoohil. Singular. There is only one. I'm not sure where I implied there was more than one. So- that is why on an intellectual level I don't equate land features in the UK with mountains. Quote: You seem to be placing the emphasis on size here which is an appeal to faulty definition. And quite frankly if it were anyone other than you, I'd be all guns blazing at this point. Why is it a faulty definition? Mountains are defined as being "larger than a hill". My concept of a hill is larger than your concept of a mountain. Quote: Your country has nine million square miles and the tallest mountain is 20,320 feet, 3.85 miles, in height. That's about .4 miles in height per million square metres. Ireland is 33427.1805 square miles. That makes our ratio a ******** higher than yours, making your mountains, proportionally, dwarves. This doesn't make a lick of sense. Since when does the land mass of the country generate a proportion to the height of a geographical feature? Quote: You are dishonoring my land, I'm sorry. I didn't view the explanation as a justification. Would you explain what dishonor is issued by an acknowledgment of a culture gap? Quote: a land you have not seen nor been to, where I have been to yours. Been to- you're correct. Seen? Not so. But that's neither here nor there. Quote: This is something I have tried to flag as offensive Hence why I removed the quotation marks- as a sign of respect. Quote: and something you have tried to justify. I did as you requested and then I found the source of the gap between our understandings. Quote: It's not OK, Tea, if our situations were reversed I don't think you'd let it slide on account of our friendship You'd be incorrect on that measure. Quote: If you continue to apply American definitions to Irish geographical features, I'm going to be offended and rightly so. English definitions actually. I applied my understanding of a word.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:21 pm
BlueRoseTorn patch99329 Do you get the common blackbird (turdus merula) in america? My favourite animal ever, but even so, they have a lovely song. They'd be nice to have around where you live. 3nodding I don't know. Actually, I'm only guessing that the birds in my area are crows, and not ravens or blackbirds. I honestly can't tell the difference unless it's pointed out to me. sweatdrop Birds aren't really my thing. Most of what you have around your place are crows. I've seen a few ravens here and there though. And nope- we don't have common black birds really.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:58 pm
TeaDidikai Actually interested? The Heida have some amazing mythology (that I can't really do justice) but I'll try if you like. Always. TeaDidikai I'm not sure where I implied there was more than one. TeaDidikai The Corrán Tuathail are (emph mine) only a smidge higher than the Willapa Hills here in Washington Comparing a mountain to a mountain range while using the plural case instead of singular did it for me. TeaDidikai Why is it a faulty definition? Mountains are defined as being "larger than a hill". My concept of a hill is larger than your concept of a mountain. Doesn't make it any more valid. TeaDidikai This doesn't make a lick of sense. Since when does the land mass of the country generate a proportion to the height of a geographical feature? Since always.... It's kinda how mountains get formed, and all that. Land mass of the country being pushed up by the forces generated by tectonic plates colliding. There is more landmass to force upwards in the case of the US and more force being put behind it, what with the several tectonic plates. TeaDidikai I'm sorry. I didn't view the explanation as a justification. Would you explain what dishonor is issued by an acknowledgment of a culture gap? I'm sorry. I took it to be a justification of the attitude I was inferring rather than a clarification on linguistic difference. TeaDidikai English definitions actually. I applied my understanding of a word. Which is solely based on experience in America. The English definition does not apply here. As hill and mountain are subjectively defined. So it was a personal definition, not a linguistic one.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:19 pm
Every Mountain that fronts the sea has it's own deity in residence that can turn into an Orca. Isniigahl's son Gitditamttssix is one such deity. Quote: Comparing a mountain to a mountain range while using the plural case instead of singular did it for me. Ah! Silly me. Quote: Since always.... It's kinda how mountains get formed, and all that. Land mass of the country being pushed up by the forces generated by tectonic plates colliding. Not always. Keep in mind some are formed by oozing magma. We have a lot of active valcanos here. Quote: I'm sorry. I took it to be a justification of the attitude I was inferring rather than a clarification on linguistic difference. Ah. I apologize. The attitude was meant to be tongue in cheek jest between friends- not a slight, and the explanation was an attempt to explain a joke that had fallen flat on it's face. I'd place odds, if we are being honest, that if you dropped me at the foot of such a mountain in the summer and asked me to point to the mountain, I'd be baffled because I would be looking for snow. sweatdrop Quote: Which is solely based on experience in America. That's hardly fair. I've lived in Europe. Quote: The English definition does not apply here. As hill and mountain are subjectively defined. So it was a personal definition, not a linguistic one. Actually- it was a linguistic one. I checked the definition before I posted because I wanted my joke to be accurate enough to be funny.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:24 pm
BlueRoseTorn CuAnnan BlueRoseTorn Can it be 4:30 so I can go home and bake cookies? emo This cubicle. I need to get out of it. Only half an hour to go. Bake one for me shaped like an acorn and break it into crumbs to feed the birds. Considering I can't eat it myself, like. Sure thing. I only seem to see swarms of crows around my apartment. A little bird-diversity now and again would be nice. At least something that doesn't have such an abrasive call. Oh birds! I'm an avid birdwatcher (as well as bird owner, and used to work with raptors in the bird of prey program at the zoo). Sometimes it just takes active watching to see the real diversity of birds that are visiting a place. I bet you'd be surprised. You can lure them with different types of food, as well, if your apartment allows that. Crows are incredible. They're extremely intelligent birds, and there are many stories about them. This is a great video about some clever ones in Japan.TeaDidikai Not always. Keep in mind some are formed by oozing magma. We have a lot of active valcanos here. While my mom was pregnant with me, Mt. St. Helen's erupted. My dad made her wear a surgical mask while she shoveled ash off the driveway. Terence is fond of telling me the fiery explosion turned me into a dragon. I grew up in the mountains around here. I spent most weekends in the Oregon Coast Range, and a great deal of time in the Cascades, and further east in the high desert. They are not experiences to be missed. If anyone wants a geologic and natural-wonders type tour of the PNW (especially Oregon) I know many places to contribute. There's a mountain called Paulina Peak that overlooks the Big Obsidian Flow. (As well as giving a view of Mt. Shasta in California, and Mt. Adams in Washington... that's quite a wide view.) That is a very intense experience. My heart still pounds thinking about it.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:46 pm
MoonJeli While my mom was pregnant with me, Mt. St. Helen's erupted. My Nana actually predicted the eruption and booked a restaurant with a view of the mountain for lunch months in advance. Quote: My dad made her wear a surgical mask while she shoveled ash off the driveway. Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconesis can be a b***h. Quote: I grew up in the mountains around here. I spent most weekends in the Oregon Coast Range, and a great deal of time in the Cascades, and further east in the high desert. They are not experiences to be missed. If anyone wants a geologic and natural-wonders type tour of the PNW (especially Oregon) I know many places to contribute. Did you ever make it out to Rockaway Beach by chance? Maybe play on the beach, or at the arcade or bumper cars? Quote: There's a mountain called Paulina Peak that overlooks the Big Obsidian Flow. (As well as giving a view of Mt. Shasta in California, and Mt. Adams in Washington... that's quite a wide view.) That is a very intense experience. My heart still pounds thinking about it.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:04 am
TeaDidikai Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconesis can be a b***h. Coolest word ever. One I can't go without saying for long periods of time. I thought it was only related to quartz dust though.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:14 am
TeaDidikai MoonJeli While my mom was pregnant with me, Mt. St. Helen's erupted. My Nana actually predicted the eruption and booked a restaurant with a view of the mountain for lunch months in advance. That is awesome. I am a rock hound, and fairly smitten with volcanology and geology. My family went on geologic roadtrips all the time just to check out various natural attractions. I wish I could have seen her blow. Unfortunately I was too fetal. I think I felt it though. whee It's in my bones. Do you know the Klickitat story of Mt. St. Helens? She was a young woman turned into the mountain by the chief of all the gods because his sons fought over her, destroying the land (the sons became two other mountains but I don't remember which ones). Quote: Did you ever make it out to Rockaway Beach by chance? Maybe play on the beach, or at the arcade or bumper cars? Ohhh yes. My grandparents lived in Tillamook for the vast majority of my life! We'd hang out there often. I spent a lot of time on the coast, from Astoria to Florence, mostly. I love that part of the Oregon Coast, rocky and fierce. I also love how the mountains almost meet the sea. It's so abrupt in many places. Forest... and then ocean. Terence and I were just talking about how we need a beach trip, to play at the arcades, when we were recalling favorite arcade games like Whack-A-Mole and Skeet Ball.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:55 am
Give or take a few days, i've been a member of this guild for a year now. eek
Ha. People can't get rid of me!
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:47 am
patch99329 Coolest word ever. One I can't go without saying for long periods of time. I thought it was only related to quartz dust though. It's actually related to volcanic dust. patch99329 Give or take a few days, i've been a member of this guild for a year now. eek Ha. People can't get rid of me! Makes me wonder how long I have been here. MoonJeli Do you know the Klickitat story of Mt. St. Helens? She was a young woman turned into the mountain by the chief of all the gods because his sons fought over her, destroying the land (the sons became two other mountains but I don't remember which ones). I'd heard that one. 3nodding I tend to do more Haida lore than anything else. Quote: Ohhh yes. My grandparents lived in Tillamook for the vast majority of my life! We'd hang out there often. I spent a lot of time on the coast, from Astoria to Florence, mostly. I love that part of the Oregon Coast, rocky and fierce. I also love how the mountains almost meet the sea. It's so abrupt in many places. Forest... and then ocean. My grandparents owned those Bumpercars and the arcade. mrgreen Quote: Terence and I were just talking about how we need a beach trip, to play at the arcades, when we were recalling favorite arcade games like Whack-A-Mole and Skeet Ball. The Rockaway Beach arcade has been closed for ages now. Ever since Grandpa passed. There are a couple other places- I'm a fan of Canon Beach as well. I don't really spend a lot of time there because if I'm hitting the OR Coast- it's to see family.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:51 pm
TeaDidikai MoonJeli Do you know the Klickitat story of Mt. St. Helens? She was a young woman turned into the mountain by the chief of all the gods because his sons fought over her, destroying the land (the sons became two other mountains but I don't remember which ones). I'd heard that one. 3nodding I tend to do more Haida lore than anything else. I love that too. My other grandparents lived in the Gorge, so I heard a lot about the regional beliefs, in particular those of the Klickitat (the Mt. St. Helen's one is also related to the Bridge of the Gods), but I ranged all over the state (and Washington too, lots of relatives there) so I've picked up bits and pieces from here and there. I don't know that I could ever live anywhere else. This region is part of me. I consider the forests and mountains more my home than anywhere else. Quote: Ohhh yes. My grandparents lived in Tillamook for the vast majority of my life! We'd hang out there often. I spent a lot of time on the coast, from Astoria to Florence, mostly. I love that part of the Oregon Coast, rocky and fierce. I also love how the mountains almost meet the sea. It's so abrupt in many places. Forest... and then ocean. My grandparents owned those Bumpercars and the arcade. mrgreen Wow, the world is so small. xd I can't even list how many summers I spent there. The town has actually gotten quieter since when I was a kid. It's such a lovely area though. We went through there last summer, stopping at various bays and lookouts. Quote: The Rockaway Beach arcade has been closed for ages now. Ever since Grandpa passed. There are a couple other places- I'm a fan of Canon Beach as well. I don't really spend a lot of time there because if I'm hitting the OR Coast- it's to see family. We'll probably go to Seaside and then down to Tillamook, in a loop, maybe camping along highway 6 on the way back to Portland. My friend lives in Seaside, and she used to work in some of the arcades there. It's one of the more touristy spots, but we can definitely hit it for the arcades. And Tilt-a-Whirl. >_> I've done a lot of fossil hunting and rock hounding up and down the coast, too. Agates! I need a kite!
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:10 pm
patch99329 Give or take a few days, i've been a member of this guild for a year now. eek Ha. People can't get rid of me!
Good for you knowing how long you've been a member! I also wanted to ask if your current av is inspired by the art porn you posted on LJ razz
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:14 pm
EternalHearts patch99329 Give or take a few days, i've been a member of this guild for a year now. eek Ha. People can't get rid of me!
Good for you knowing how long you've been a member! I also wanted to ask if your current av is inspired by the art porn you posted on LJ razz mmm, art porn.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:43 pm
I really need to read labels of "healthy" drinks before I try them. Fricken Fuze hiding pomegranate in their blueberry raspberry drink.
At least I didn't drink a lot of it....no rash, just an upset stomach.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:35 pm
Nuri I really need to read labels of "healthy" drinks before I try them. Fricken Fuze hiding pomegranate in their blueberry raspberry drink. At least I didn't drink a lot of it....no rash, just an upset stomach. Of all the things for you to be allergic to... MoonJeli I love that too. My other grandparents lived in the Gorge, so I heard a lot about the regional beliefs, in particular those of the Klickitat (the Mt. St. Helen's one is also related to the Bridge of the Gods), but I ranged all over the state (and Washington too, lots of relatives there) so I've picked up bits and pieces from here and there. I don't know that I could ever live anywhere else. This region is part of me. I consider the forests and mountains more my home than anywhere else. It's strange. My intro to the local tribes was by virtue of me being a Reiki Master and a good cook. sweatdrop Quote: Wow, the world is so small. xd I can't even list how many summers I spent there. The town has actually gotten quieter since when I was a kid. It's such a lovely area though. We went through there last summer, stopping at various bays and lookouts. Coming and going up the coast my husband and I always stop at Hug Point to hop out of the car, head down onto the beach and... well... hug. whee Quote: I've done a lot of fossil hunting and rock hounding up and down the coast, too. Agates! The tide pools just south Garibaldi are amazing! I still have my kite that my Grandpa gave me the summer before he passed.
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